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Mather Sees Nazi Downfall, Advises 10 Year Delay Before Signing Peace

Matthiesson Desires World Socialist Order After War

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"If the United Nations win this war, we should wait 10 years after the armistice before signing the peace with the Axis powers," Kirtley F. Mather, professor of Geology said recently. "In this way, we can avoid the mistake made at Versailles in signing a hasty treaty and instead create a lasting peace."

Stating that the bitterness and hatred following this war would be too great to allow a just peace to be made, Professor Mather said that if the Allies wait for a five or ten year period after the war the foundations can be laid for a true family of nations, including all of the countries in the world, each with an equal access to raw materials and trade.

Foresees Hitler's Doom

"Hitler and Naziism will probably be destroyed within by revolution," he said. "The nature of the future German government will be determined by the politics of the revolutionists--communism or democracy."

Believing that a distinction should be made between the guilty leaders, the "Tojo and Hitler gangs," and the common people of Germany and Japan, Professor Mather hopes that ultimately all peoples in all lands will have a voice in world policy, just as each of the states in the United States has a voice in the control of the Federal Government. "This, however, is an ultimate objective, which cannot be realized for many years to come," he said.

"The controlling powers in the postwar world, if the allies win, will be the United States, Great Britain, China, and the Dutch East Indies and it will be their task temporarily to police the world and to set up the machinery of the international state," he said. "It is probable that China will police Japan and Russia will take care of Germany.

U. S., Russia Must Cooperate

"The fullest cooperation with Russia a lasting peace. If Britain and Ameri-and China is the only feasible way for ca attempt to run the world between themselves, it can only result in another war in twenty years.

"Although there will probably be a decrease of nationalism after the war," he continued, "for even the United States will be forced to give up part of its sovereignity, national states will continue to exist. They will continue to exist until there is so little difference in the standard of living of all countries that the world can have free trade.

"All of this will entail a tremendous educational effort in the United States. The people will have to be educated to the fact that Russia has a large role in the world order to come. They must be shown the necessity for the United States to help police the world and to finance its reconstruction.

"In this way a depression can better be averted, because such agencies as the Lend-Lease and other credit organizations can be transferred from a war effort to one of reconstruction. In this way, the resources of the United States will be able to be used to their fullest extent and unemployment can be kept at a minimum."

German Democracy Possible

F. O. Matthiessen, associate professor of History and Literature, believes that only sound political basis for Germany after the war is a democratic socialist state.

"Before the first World War," he said, "Germany had a powerful labor labor movement, and this, combined with the experience the Germans gained in the days of the Weimar Republic has given them sufficient knowledge of the workings of democracy to make a non-totaltarian state practicable."

In conclusion, he said that "I believe with Harold Laski, that, because of sheer economic pressure, socialism is coming in Britain and it is my hope that some day there will be an international-socialist order."

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