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Radcliffe Council Vetoes 11 p.m. Sign-Out Motion

Cedar Hill Plan Fails By Vote of 141/2-7; Proposal 'Unfair'

By Carlotta G. Shipman

Cliffe girls will definitely not be able to sign out at 11 p.m. this year, as the Radcliffe Student Council yesterday killed an extended hour motion, 141/2 to 7. Cedar Hill 'Cliffe student conference, had recommended the later hour on a trial basis.

Although the dorms would continue to close at 10 p.m. under the motion, the Council felt that in effect the extended deadline would keep the whole dorm open later. It was said that the proposal was unfair to the girls not going out to subject them to the noise of late caller and departures.

A poll conducted by the Radcliffe News last year indicated that a majority of the college was in favor of the later hour. The vote at Cedar Hill for the recommendation was 32 to 12. But several people said that they had voted for the motion only so that the Council could consider it, not so that it would pass.

The Administration would have had final decision in either event, but now the matter will not be brought before them.

Arguments for the motion stated that girls who study late, especially in exam and reading periods, need to leave the dorm later than 10 p.m. Many girls, also, have callers who can not get to the dorms by 10 p.m. and those girls must wait outside on the steps.

House mothers can give special permission to leave dorms after 10 o'clock. Last year, Mrs. Mary S. Moser, former Dean of Residents, suggested that house mothers be lenient in giving late permissions. The Council felt that this would make it possible for girls who had to leave the dorms able to do so without a special rule. There was an objection that many housemothers go to bed too early to make this an effective possibility.

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