Two Law Students Beaten in Debate At Norfolk Prison

The Norfolk state Prison debating team won a two-to-one decision over a pair of Law School students Sunday on the resolution "The House regrets the Advance of the Welfare State." The prison team supported the resolution.

The Law School Students, Greville E. Janner and Anthony J.L. Lloyd, are both graduates of Cambridge University, England, and in the debate represented Cambridge, not Harvard. Their loss represented Norfolk's second straight Victory over English competition, the prisoners having out-talked a team of Oxford men last year.

Sunday's debate, however, was a less formal affair than the Oxford match. Janner and Lloyd have not debated together as a team before, while the prison combination was an experienced duet. Further-more, the Law students were hampered in their support of the welfare state by the fact that Lloyd is by private conviction a firm Conservative.

Janner last year was president of the Cambridge Union, a mock Parliament designed to give students experience in speaking and in the forms of English polities. In the Union he represented Labour, while Lloyd was a Conservative.

In the debate the prisoners called the welfare state a step to socialism and socialism to communism, while Janner and Lloyd attempted to prove that the welfare state removes the sources of discontent which produce communism.

Judging the debate were Justice Edward A. Counihan of the state Supreme Court, Elwood H. Hettrick, dean of the B.U. School of Law, and Nils Y. Wessell, acting president of Tufts college.